The Long And Winding Road, Searching For Truth
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Waking Up
Have you had a revelation that went against all that you were taugh in church or Sunday School? Are you confused at what that might mean? Did you read the Bible for yourself without the interjection of the church and seen something different then what you have been taught? Have you come across some disturbing things in that book and are now wondering what the heck?
You are not alone! Many have been there. Yes, right where you are. I had an extraordinary thing happen to me and it shook my world and my religious beliefs.You can read my story about What I Learned When I Went To Heaven. I have researched and read that Bible back and forth to find the answers of what had happened to me.
Don't be surprised if you feel like you are an outcast. Don't be surprised if they call you names and try to reconvert your thoughts. There are some things in that Bible that do make sense, for those who are able to hear and see them. Don't go throwing the book away because you will need it in the future to understand the society that those people lived in.
Now that you woke up to the fantasy that religions want you to believe, you will come under fire. You now will be a threat to them instead of with them. I have a few people on Hubpages that are now telling others not to take anything that I saw with a grain of salt or even as far as a BLOCK of salt. They are telling everyone not to read my hubs and not just the ones that I have written on religious topics. Oh they be scared of the truth and they will try to scare you and put fear into your heart. They are just mirroring themselves for they are the ones who a re very afraid. You can be sure of that. Here are some things that may help you on the Long and Winding Road you are now on.
First Things First
The first thing that is good when starting your journey is to read that Bible even if yu are not a Christian. After you have finished with that then go and search and read church doctirnes or laws. I know the Catholic Church has their cannon and laws on-line. I wrote a article stating what some churches are to teach their parishioners. You can read how the Catholic Clergy are to train their parishioners on that as well: Cults of the Religious Kind
Now you can expand and start your own "Religious Studies" by going and reading about other religions and what and how they came to be here: http://www.religionfacts.com/index.html and here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/
Then find out what Jesus was all about and how he lived and his values tht he had hoped they would have imparted on his followers instead of the religios and control they have today. He even expected this to happen:
http://www.thenazareneway.com/
Find out the truth of the Catholic Church doctirnes about Worshipping Mary and what other Heresies there are: http://www.thechristianwebsite.com/gpage12.html
Logically
After reading the Bible you will need to know what caused and still does some of the destruct ions they wrote about. Most of the climate and Natural destruct ions were due to Natural Cyclic Climate changed that occur on this earth. They did not have the scientific knowledge then as we do today. They only explained natural occurrences in the language and knowledge they had then and blamed them on invisible beings, such as Satan or God or Gods and Angels and the like. Get a good understanding of weather and natural occurrences of Earthquakes, soil erosion, volcanic activity back then. It truly was/is, what they reaped is what they sown. Farmers know that if you continually plant the same crop in the same place year after year that the soil will be depleted of nutrients and eventually wash away. They learned this in the Dust Bowl Years. It is nothing new, but religions will put a shroud of mystery around such things. Here are a few sites to visit and study too that will shed some knowledge on those occurrences:
http://www.readinessinfo.com/eqindex.shtml
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001746.html
Earthquake confirmed why the walls of Jericho fell
Some of the words used in the Bible and today's definition of them:
Brimstone -- Sulfur--like what comes out of a volcano.This would be the Fire and Brimstone that is speckled all throughout the Bible.
Hell --really was an actual physical place where Rome burned all the bodies that they crucified on crosses. They crucified lots of people on crosses, not just Jesus. They crucified anyone who remotely came up against the control and power of the Roman Empire. To cleanse the area they had to put all the crucified bodies in a trench and burn them. This is what Hell is and the other names they used are Gehenna, and Seoul. Doesn't this sound close to what they do to you when you come away from their power and lust for control? That is the fire you will experience. I believe there is something mentioned in the Bible about going through a fire to be Christ-like. They will twist your words around in an attempt to keep control of you.
Angels, Satan, Messengers of God
A synopsis of what is in the Documentary:
~~Many books have been picked through and left out of the Bible. The Jewish Rabi's and priests and other Clergy chose which one would be in them and which would not be included. In those times you must realize that the clergy was not to speak to the people as they do today. They put their backs towards the people. There are many other changes that occurred throughout time. Once Rome got hold of those books, they also decided what would be in that book and what and how that those words they didn't understand were written therein. In other words they stole Jewish Scripture to make it their own to control the populous.
In the first books there were may Angels written about, but during the 15th Century some of them were deleted from the books that we now have today. It is also during this time some of the translations were changed and more books were left out of certain translations of the Bible then there were in others. When those who seem to think that you are a follower of Satan and try to get you back or those who seem to think of you as a threat, they will tell you that the book is complete. If it were then all books would be included and nothing taken away and they would even know their own history of how the Bible came to be. They will tell you that they are Gnostic and myths and were not included because there was something wrong with the books and they didn't come to par with what is real--------to them.
Satan -- When first mentioned he was as a prosecuting attorney for God and God allowed it. Satan was to tempt us to do evil things so that we would turn back to God and show him our allegiance. ~~~
Today the Christian churches have Satan as an evil being wanting to get your soul and take it with him to Hell. They use him to threaten you to get you back with their beliefs. He did not fall because he wanted to be better than God as they will tell you. He fell because God wanted him (the First Angel he made) to worship Adam. He couldn't understand why, when he was the First made by God and debated with God and the outcome was that God threw him out of Heaven. Also read another hubber's debate on their View Of The Devil
Lilith was also put out as a myth. She was made when Adam was made in God's likeness. She was made as an equal. Adam didn't like that and asked God for a mate. Eve was taken from one of Adam's ribs and that is how she was brought forth. Lilith got mad and cursed all the children of Adam and Eve and so when a child died she was blamed for it. All this and much more is in the movie, Angels: Good or Evil. You can order it on the right.
You may also read about The Truth about Mental Illness, Satan and Demons
Who or What is God
By now you are wondering if there is a God or what is God. God is who you feel or seems to be for you. There is much history of how God came to be and how the One God Theory originated.
In the Land of Canaan they had many Gods and the Three Patriarchs of the Jewish Faith go to Canaan and do as the Canaanites do. Remember this is the Jewish Religion that starts this, not the Greco-Roman Christian, that come later. During this time they end up going into Egypt. It appears that they kind of begin to over-populate Egypt and they begin to feel uneasy as they have thoughts of them taking over their society so they enslave them. This is how the Exodus came about. This happens many other times and all are historically recorded.
Also mentioned on the DVD's is the thing about the many Gods/esses being transformed into the ONE GOD. All they did was make the other God's into the Saints that we have today. In the times before there was one God there were many and each God/ess was in charge. The logic would be to have Saint's and in them they also do a specific functions for humans on Earth. In the beginning it was the Angels that filled the roles of the other Gods/esses.
You will want to get yourself aquanted with this too and you can get the DVD The History of God on the right.
For a List of Catholic Saints and who they are and what they do for humans you chack check out the Saint's Pages
There are also Celtic Saint's and you can read about them on the Celtic Saint's Page.
For a Chronology of the people this is a very good site to learn about the agriculture, and science and other technology that happened in an easy to read timeline: Antiquity: The People's Chronologyy
Other sites you may want to visit for the History of the people that in the times of when the Books of the Bible were written are:
The History of the Persian Empire
Pagan Origins of The Christian Myth this redirects you to their new site so give it a moment.
The Books That Were Left Out and Other Places For Study
Being as some books were left out of the Bible makes you wonder why sme of those books were mentioned in the books that were left in at all. I mean if they didn't want us to know about them at all then why even leave a scent of them in the Bible. This just adds to the notion that the Bible is Not complete and some things have been added and some have been taken away, contrary to what they stand on as 'gospel" truth that it has not. One of the things that I notice and they cannot tell me why it is so is that the Catholic Bible does have a few more books in it then the King James Version. That right there tells me that the Bible is not whole nor complete. The Bible itself tells you that it is not complete.
There is magic spells to summon the Angels in the historical accounts in the Book of Solomon that was not included. In another book on Daniel many Angels were named before they edited them out in the 1500's.
Some books you may want to read are:
The Books of Adam and Eve-where Satan's true role is mentioned and other things. The main site for this is where there are many religious subjects and other books you will want to read too. The Reluctant Messenger
The Gospel of Thomas-where Jesus shows a sense of humor and other things There are many other books here as well.
Acts of the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul
The Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles
Joseph and Aseneth -There are many more books on the main site Early Jewish Writings that were written in the very first years after the death of Jesus. Scroll beyond the comment box on the site and you will get a list of books.
The Ten Commandments and what each society's rendition of them are. They are different and you will want to read them.
The Works of Flavius Josephus --an unbiased author's account of what was in his own time and that of the man they called Jesus.
Did you also know that the Pentagram was originally a Christian Symbol and not the Wicca or Witch symbol as believed by today's Christianity. You can read about that on The Ancient Pentagram - A Christian Symbol and also on The Star Of David
Other Things You May Want To Check Out
Lords Prayer, from Aramaic into Old English
Translation by G.J.R. Ouseley from The Gospel of the Holy Twelve
Our Father-Mother Who art above and within:
Hallowed be Thy Name in twofold Trinity.
In Wisdom, Love and Equity Thy Kingdom come to all.
Thy will be done, As in Heaven so in Earth.
Give us day by day to partake of Thy holy Bread, and the fruit of the living Vine.
As Thou dost forgive us our trespasses, so may we forgive others who trespass against us.
Shew upon us Thy goodness, that to others we may shew the same.
In the hour of temptation, deliver us from evil.
Amun.
The History of The Lord's Prayer is also on the same page this is from: The Lord's Prayer
The First Missionary War, The Church take over of the Roman Empire
THE ORIGINAL SIN
The Bible/UFO Connections. Don't just brush this off without going to the site and reading lots of what they have there. Some of it makes sense.
The Lacerta Files --This is also something that goes along the line of Reptilians controlling Earth's Inhabitants.
Agnostic Review of Christianity - This web site is dedicated to examining and evaluating fundamentalist Christianity and the claims it makes about the Bible and the nature of the universe.
Other Places to Find Information
- Comparison Chart of Beliefs of Christian Denominations - ReligionFacts
- The Evolution of Satan - Part 1
The purpose of this study to is look at how Satan has evolved over the centuries. The image we have of Satan now is quite different from the image that Judaism has and when looking at the Old Testament texts,... - The Evolution of Satan - Part 2
In Part 1 of this study, we saw that the Old Testament picture of satan is simply an adversary, which can be an angel or a man. When refering to the satan that opposed Job, we see that he is simply fullfilling... - The Evolution of Satan Part 3
In Part 2 of this study, we looked at Zoroastrianism as a possible source for beliefs concerning demons and an inflated nature of Satan in the Jewish national consciousness after their exile to Babylon. These... - The Four Noble Truths
It is my personal opinion, that the ancient philosophy of Buddhism, was sent here by God, as a religious awakening to prepare us for Christ's birth. I feel that if we would combine the philosophies of Buddhism, with the teachings of Jesus Christ, man - Reincarnation In Christianity
2000 years ago I lived as Jacob and was known as the brother of Yeshua. As predicted, Satan has ruled the hearts and minds of believers, and the church has become spiritually disenfranchised by manmade doctrines. Our Heavenly Father has heard your pr - http://www.dhushara.com/book/genesis.htm
- The Origin Of Sin
- Pope: Basilica bones belong to apostle St. Paul - CNN.com
Scientific tests prove bones housed in the Basilica of St. Paul in Rome are those of the apostle St. Paul himself, according to Pope Benedict XVI. - The Apostle Paul. Rabbi Saul Could it all be a fabrication?
Uncompromising exposure of the counterfeit origins of Christianity and of the evil it has brought to the world.
Forgive Them For They Know Not What They Do
No matter what you believe, this information should give you a start of gaining some wisdom and knowledge of what religions are all about. I say to those who do not believe in a God or any doctrine's the whole of the Universe is Within You and you cannot get away from it because you are that which it is made up of.
As you go through these things and you begin to see thinks in a better light your thoughts about yourself will begin to change. Those who will undoubtedly fight this will show the bitter side of their religion. For the rest of us--just remember these words and they will help you through whatever you experience:
Forgive Them For They Know Not What They Do.
Remember also that this goes for you and me too. Everything happens in it's own time and for specific reasons. You may not know them now but you will later in your life.
Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do To You.
Also a bit of Karma (oh and read some of the Indian beliefs and others ----
You Shall Reap What You Sow.
Just be kind to others and respect them is all the message that Jesus really wanted us to know--oh and that we will do greater and more things than he ever was able to do in his short life here on Earth.
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Wow excellent research.
Nice hub LG with lots of references for the broadminded. Interpretation becomes easier when having experiences, and not relying on dogma as belief.
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The Tanakh (Old Testament) was written in Hebrew and some in Aramaic. New Testament was written in Greek.
The New Testament books were selected by Reformers only, which was written in Greek. The selection was chosen on the basis; weather there was references from the Tanakh - Old Testaments. If there were no references they were not selected. There were many books written. But not all books are authentic. The Apocrypha books were not selected, since they were considered as heretic. Catholics have it. They were written in Greek but consider as a part of Old Testament (Tanakh). There are not present in original Hebrew language, an original Bible. They were written later.
God already told us and revealed us His will, what we need to know. We do not need more books to add to the Bible. The Bible was completed and closed. The Bible is unique and it is living Word.
New Age people, today, embrace all gods, all religions. It does not matter some could be attractive to man’s feelings or not. I think it is offence to God. He does not need other gods He is only One. He warned us from confusing people and pagan religions. Satan, god of this world is one of them and he is father of lies. He is also accuser of believers day and night.
Some claim that Jesus is their Lord. But they do not listen what He is saying or what He is teaching.
The angels are servant of God and men. There are enormous amount of the angels. What we know about them is enough. There are not our gods and we do not have to pay so much attention to them.
Rest writings outside of Bible are only opinion of man and not of God.
Great Hub, LG
I never felt any need to read the Bible, so people can make of that what they will. I find it amusing that they call us New-Age. Going back to a time before the Bible is surely 'Old-Age.'
If folks want to judge, they are more than welcome - I care not!
'Love thy neighbour' is the only relevant bit. I never felt the need to live my life according to a collection of stories. Or spend time in a church, for that matter.
Yup - I tend to ignore such people, as I find their opinions offensive and also narrow-minded. I am pretty happy with my spiritual development, so do not care about the judgement of others.
Glad that there are open-minded people like you, Mo and CW on Hubpages - keeps any discussions interesting.
Forgive me if I offended you. I did not mean to. I do not think you spend more time in Bible as I did. But nevertheless, I have a literature which support my statements. We did not live in time of writing. I do not see any wrong in it. You also have a literature which you believe what you believe. We have a freedom, do we? We have a freedom even to be wrong. But not all open minded is good. To call me layer is not fair.
God bless you.
Maybe you are right. Maybe you are older as I am. But what I was saying was about Apocrypha which are not part of OT Bible. First they were written late in Greek. The last book Malachi (OT) was written hundred years BC., precisely 331 BC. There is not significant in Apocrypha books, except many repetitions. There is not quoting from Tanakh. What did I say wrong?
I know you are screening comments before you placed them for the public. This is why my comment was bomble-jumble. My text disappeared before I edited it. I could not see it again. I do not accusing you as I am talking generally about Satan. But you surely accuse all the time, which I consider offensive. I or others do not deserve it. I would like to be your friend. But what I should do if you are wrong? I just lay down my thought when I read yours. But I will not comment if it is your wish. Perhaps I should write hub instead.
Weather we are consider perfect or not (nobody is), the Christianity was tested for 2000 years. New age was not tested.
Since there is no Satan where evil came from?
We know that we messed a lot. But Lord Jesus is perfect. He did not mess anything. Lord is watching over His Word to perform it.
You red the Bible it is OK. But you do not seem to fallow. Why I should believe you. I do not know you. But I know God and His Word.
I do not have to read all what you give me to read. I did not write article, you did. I was only responder.
I think the original christianity is beautiful and is entwined with gnosticism, knowing, experience. It has a depth that is amazing and when it comes to awakening and knowing your own self, the Nazarene way, original christianity, gnosticism bodes well. I align very much with Sufi where he says modern christianity is like christianity inc. The teachings, well they don't feel like teachings.
Excellent hub, Lady G. So glad you put in all those links. You bring up great points. And yes, the bible should definitely read out of the cataclysims of the church. It should be read personally. Nicely put together.
Fascinatingly simplistic; but, has in depth meaning as well.
Thank you for you efforts. Nice Hub.
Keep on Hubbing!
At least you do not put an "a" instead of the second "e" and imbarish me.
Keep on Hubbing!
This is fantastic Lady Guinevere! I didn't know what I've been missing. I've bookmarked all the links you've provided and will try to spend time researching them soon. In regard to folks like Ivan, your considerable skills are wasted in attempting to reason with irrationality. For the fundamentalist it's just so much easier to let others do their thinking for them. After all, critical thinking is the original sin. ALL the books of ALL religions are the work of MEN, and I say men advisedly, written and circulated to serve their agendas.
You've got a new fan.
Sounds like your becoming a specialist Lady Guinevere. If so, you've chosen a subject that will always be controversial.
I look forward to it.
More excellent links for you:
Biblical Origins in Ancient Egypt:
Debbie, you have already cautioned people abotu how to read the bible and how it is interpreted by the various Churches. The whole TRUTH should be studied about the real foundation of Christianity - the Roman Catholic Church. It was not founded by Jesus Christ. It was founded at the First Council of Nicea 325CE by Constantine I.
Here is the TRUE history:
I found your information to be more knowledge for me to learn from. This is what my hub was for and that's to learn as much as possible.
Good for you! There's a reason the Creator gave humans a brain - to think with, and to make decisions based on as much information as one can gather and absorb.
Lemmings come to mind when certain people can't stand it when you think differently than they do. Even after seeing their buddies go off the cliff, the ones behind walk right off after them. No thanks!
Lady, if you want to start a fight, just mention the Bible. No matter what you say, or how you present the information, someone will get mad.
Hello, Lady G.
I can see now why some people gave you "that" name.
There is nothing wrong to seek the truth and questioning your faith. God gave us brain to think. If He want us to just follow silently on other people's truth, He should gave us cow's brain instead. By studying everything about religion, will give us more knowledge and maybe some understanding, or more questions to ask, which will push us to seek further.
Yes, some able to be sweep away and lost, but I believe if we doing this with the right intention and genuine heart which honestly to seek the ultimate truth, we will able to hear or see the sign from God when it come, and in the end will increase our faith; with knowledge and wisdom at this time, not only with blind faith. So it is good, and deserve to try.
I think you already did great job by making this hub, no matter what other thought about it. Truth have to be said. You don't insult others in any way, just encouraged them to look further beyond what they know to see possibilities and the truth, and this is good thing.
Have a nice day, Lady G, and may God bless you. :)
...well you have a real profound writer's mind because you are always searching ...and asking questions ......for which some of the answers may still be out there waiting to be discovered ...... curiosity and open-mindnesses are also two other character traits that I would say defines your writing style ..... well keep on seeking the answer - and you will gain wisdom and faith and some surprises ..... along the way!!!!











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Peggy W Level 8 Commenter 3 years ago
You are apparently very open minded and that is such a pleasure. Some people I know in different religions say that their way is the only way and others who are not equally enlightened will either go to hell or at the least never get to see God. I have never believed that. As you pointed out, books in........books out...........translation differences, etc. make for very different interpretations.
If everyone adopted the Golden Rule......just THINK what a better place this would be here on earth. Eternity awaits us all.